78-L List
78-L is a discussion group devoted to music and recordings
of the pre-LP era. The list is open to collectors and lovers of all kinds
of music of this era, such as early jazz and blues, big bands, show music,
vaudeville, classical, etc., as well as spoken word and other historical
recordings. We also welcome discussion of recording history, discography,
the collectors' market, and vintage phonographs. The group is not slanted
toward any particular type of music or collector interest. Whether you're
into cylinders or discs, vintage jazz or big bands, cranking up a victrola
or playing your records through modern stereo equipment, we welcome your
participation and hope that we can learn from each other and broaden our
musical tastes. The common element is that what we listen to was recorded
at (or near) 78 rpm.
This list was established at Cornell University by Douglas M. Elliot
in 1992.
It is currently managed by Ron Fial ron@fial.com
(503) 227-7083
Background
and types of subscriptions
How do mail lists work? A subscriber sends an email
to the list server, which then sends an exact copy of the email message
to each member. On weekends, 78-l currently forwards about 55 messages
per day. It is useful to have a mail reader which implements mail filters,
and set up a filter to automatically place 78-l email in its own mailbox.
Two common Windows email readers are Eudora and Microsoft Outlook. Use
eudora (http://www.eudora.com, click free download) if you can, as Outlook
is very prone to virus infestation.
The 78-l mailing list has two types of subscriptions. A regular
subscription means that you get all email as soon as it sent. A digest
subscription means that you receive summary digests a few times per day that contain
the all the messages since the last digest. Many members
perfer the regular subscription, where you can respond within minutes to
a new posting.
The digest is created each day at about 6:00
AM EDT. It is possible to sign up for both the regular AND the digest
list at the same time.
The address of this list is 78-l@78online.com
or 78-L@78online.com
(previous address was 78-L@topica.com,
which operated from December 31, 1999 to January 25, 2001
(previous address was 78-L@mylist.net,
which operated from Sept. 1, 1998 to December 31, 1999)
(previous address was 78-l@cornell.edu,
which operated from 1992 to Sept. 1, 1998)
This list runs version 1.94.5 of Majordomo, demime and bulk mailer.
A customized version of Phorum is used for the web forums.
If you have unresolved questions, contact: owner-78-L@78online.com
List
conventions and manners
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78-l is an open list. Anyone may subscribe with the approval
of the list owner. Only members may request the member list.
Non-subscribers may post messages, but these are 'moderated'.
Non-member's postings are examined, spam email is thrown out, and legitimate
messages are forwarded to the list, after a delay of a few hours to a couple
of days.
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All messages posted should concern 78-RPM and list topics described at
the top of this page. If you must post an off-topic message, please
add the caret character (^) to the front of the Subject Line. The caret character is
created by holding down the Shift key and pressing the number 6 key on an IBM PC keyboard.
Other keyboards also have some way to generate the ^ character
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The list is unmoderated, all member's messages are posted as-is, without
prior review.
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No pornography, foul language, name-calling
or spam mail is permitted. You will be permanently unsubscribed.
Your ISP will received proof of your activities and will probably terminate
your internet account.
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Please do not post lists of records for sale or auction. Post instead an
email with a short description of the offering and include a link to a web
page, or to an FTP site, where the entire list is located. There is
another mail list devoted to 78-rpm sales, its address is
78-c@yahoogroups.com, join it by going to this link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/78-C/
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Please do not post mail with attachments -- Your attachment will be stripped
out, although some text attachments may be converted on in-line text. Attachments
can cause long stretches of gibberish to appear in the digest.
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Please send regular (text) mail to the list, do not send HTML (Bold face,
underlined, etc.) formatted mail. Many members do not have email readers
that can read HTML formatted mail, it looks like gibberish to them.
See this link for information on how to turn-off HML formatting:
http://www.expita.com/nomime.html
Filters on the 78-L list will automatically strip out HTML and attempt to extract the
plain text. This may cause parts of your message to be lost or garbled.
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If replying to a long message, please include only the relevant parts in
a reply. This lowers the server load and everyone gets their messages
faster.
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"Me, too", "I agree" or "send me one" (or similar)
messages are discouraged. Please send this type of message to
the offering party in PRIVATE email. Let's save the bandwidth
for relevant discussion.
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If you intend to reply personally to the sender of a message,
make sure that the TO: field contains the email address
of the message originator, and does not contain 78-L@78online.com.
Otherwise hundreds of people will get your reply, and see your 'personal'
comments. The default reply is that the mail will be sent to the
mail list.
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If you go on vacation and do not read your email, your mailbox may fill
up and bounce all email sent to you back to the list manager. This is not
fun for the list manager. Please send email to owner-78-L@78online.com
and ask him/her to set your account to 'nomail' when you cannot read your
mail every day. Or make sure your mailbox at your ISP is large,
since the list can generate 2 Megabytes of mail per week.
How to Subscribe
to the 78-l mailing list
To subscribe to 78-L you must send an email to the mail list program.
You must send the email from the email address where you want
to receive the mail. Note that the name 78-L contains the
the letter L, not the number 'one'. An upper
or lower case L is OK. For example:
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To: majordomo@78online.com
From: [your mail address will be here]
Subject: (leave this blank)
Body: subscribe 78-L
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If this seems too complicated or you cannot made it work then send email
to owner-78-L@78online.com and in the body of the message
ask him/her to subscribe you to the list. This method may require
a day or two.
How to
Unsubscribe from 78-l mailing list
To unsubscribe from 78-l you must send an email to the mail list program.
Your must send this message from the email address you used to subscribe.
The unsubscribe process is immediate. See below for how to unsubscribe
from the Digest list. You may use upper or lower case L. Be sure you
send the mail to majordomo@78online.com, NOT to 78-L@78online.com !!!!! For example:
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Easy way to unsubscribe: Unsubscribe from 78-l via web page
How to subscribe to the digest
To subscribe to digest you must send an email to the mail list program.
The digest is sent daily (or sooner if there is a lot of mail), and contains all the email from the previous
24 (or less) hours. The digest is created at 8:00 AM EDT. Note
that the name 78-l contains the lower case of the letter L, not
the number 'one'. You may use an upper case L or a
lower case L. For example:
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NOTE:
You can subscribe to both the mail list and the digest.
If you send both types of email messages (subscribe 78-l
and subscribe 78-l digest), you will then get each email
sent to the list as it is sent, and also a daily digest containing the
email for the previous 24 hours.
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How to unsubscribe to the digest
To unsubscribe from digest you must send an email to the mail list
program. Note that the name 78-l contains the lower case of the letter
L,
not the number 'one'. For example:
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Easy way to unsubscribe from digest: Unsubscribe from 78-l-digest via web page
How to get the archive
file and old digests
In addition to the daily digest, the list server archives each message
in an archive file. The list is currently set to generate a new archive
monthly. The archive file name is of the form 78-l-0006,
where the 00 represents the year (2000), and the following number represents
the issue number (month). The server also maintains CONTENTS and
TOPICS files, which tell you which archive file contains which message
'subject' Please turn off your 'signature' (or put the end
line last) when you send the following emails, or the server will try to
process each signature line as a command.
To find out the names of monthly archive files (big!) and daily digest
files, use the "index" command. The same archive is used for the regular
list and the digest list. Send an email to majordomo@78online.com and in
the body of the message put the following::
You will receive a message with all the files available for the mail list
and the digest list. Files that start with 78-L are large archives.
Files that start with v00.n are daily digests, but there may be several
per day, as they are limited to 40,000 characters. The files for
the mail list and the digest list are identical. Note that file
names must be all lower case. For example:
-rw-rw---- 1 majordom daemon
4299997 Dec 21 18:00 78-l.0200 (closed)
-rw-rw---- 1 majordom daemon
11219 Jan 20 20:11 78-l.0201 (size suggest still growing for current
month)
-rw-rw---- 1 majordom daemon
54781 Feb 18 05:45 v2002.n001 (first digest for year 2002)
-rw-rw---- 1 majordom daemon
47665 Feb 18 16:47 v2002.n002 (2nd digest)
If you see files in which you're interested, you may retrieve them by
using the "get" command and specifying the list name and archive
filename.
For instance, to retrieve the digest file called v2000.n049
and the mail list archive file, you should send email to majordomo@78online.com
and in the body of the message put the following: (note:
the file names are case sensitive)
get 78-l v2001.n007 <--Notice,
want a daily digest Volume 2001, number 7
get 78-l 78-l.0201
<--Notice, want a single mail list
archive (May be over 4 Megabytes large!)
end
You may put multiple 'get' requests in the same message on successive
lines. Put in the end line, or turn off your 'signature line(s)',
or the server will process your signature as commands (it will also
send you a general help file). [get 78-L] or [get 78-L-digest]
may be used, you will get the same result. Warning: You probably
don't want to fetch the archive file, it may be many Megabytes.
If you do, be sure your email program is set to allow receipt of large
messages. Also, some servers limit the size of email messages.
My
mail stopped arriving, what happened??
For various reasons, the mail sent to you may be rejected (your
mailbox is full, your ISP has shut the mail server down for maintenance,
part of the internet is broken or cut off for a while, etc.).
When this happens, your mail piles up in our outgoing mail queue.
With 50 messages per day per person, this starts slowing down processing
of outgoing messages. If your delivery problem lasts for over about
4 hours, your subscription may be moved to the 'nomail' list. You
will stop receiving emails. You must send a message to owner-78-L@78online.com
and request that your mail be turned on again. Someday there will be
a web page where you can do this yourself.
I
have multiple email addresses, how can I post from them, but get only 1
copy of the emails?
The list owner can add additional email addresses to the 'nomail' list
for 78-L or for 78-L-digest. That way, you can send posts to the
list from those other addresses, but only receive one set of messages from
the list. Send an email to owner-78-L@78online.com and request
that another email address be added to the list. Please give both
addresses, the address which which you are currently subscribed, and the
new address or addresses from which you want to send mail to the list.
You can also have a 'nomail'-only subscription so you receive no list
mail, but can still post to the list. You can then read the list on
the list's web forum.
This is useful if you have a yahoo.com, hotmail.com, etc. web email
account, you can post from that address when traveling, and read the list
at http://www.78online.com/forum
Contacting the person
who manages the mail list server
To contact the person who manages the 78-l mailing list, send mail
to: owner-78-l@78online.com.
This person can help you with operational problems, subscription
problems, inability to access the digest, turn off your mail for vacation,
etc.
Questions about the content or length of messages, the goals or
conventions of the list, etc. should be addressed to the list itself.
(i.e. 78-L@78online.com).
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